Re: [Nagios-devel] Nagios is dead! Long live Icinga!
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:21 pm
Gerhard Lausser wrote:
> It was bound to happen.
> Today a group of fed up members of the Nagios community announced Icinga,
> "an Open Source Monitoring System, based on the well-known software Nagios".
> http://www.icinga.org/
> I am a user of Nagios since the days it was called Netsaint.
> I saw Nagios grow and mature, installed it out of curiosity first, then to
> support small admin teams and finally I did projects at enterprise level.
> The latter was possible, when Nagios left the nerd niche and started to gain
> attention at upper management.
> This was around 2005. The first installations of proprietary monitoring
> software were being superseded by Nagios, articles were written, the first
> book on Nagios came out. The community was excited and eager to see Nagios
> be the number one in system monitoring. 2006 was the year of the first
> Nagios conference in Nuremberg, where we all had the chance to meet Ethan
> Galstad. A clever, canny person, who immediately gained the confidence of
> the community.
> Then, in 2008, things slowed down. Nagios 3.x was released, which was a
> great leap forward, but Ethan did not appear on the devel-mailinglist as
> often as he used to. His presentation about the future of Nagios at the
> annual conference was nearly the same as the year before. The NDO was still
> buggy.
> Neither the announced API nor the new web interface weren't even in an early
> state. After the conference, volunteers set up a git repository and a
> testing environment, willing to help with the considerably overdue Version
> 4. No reaction from the maintainer...
> Instead, a blog entry "2009 - The Run of the Dark Horse" appeared on the
> Nagios website. We read about "...Look to 2009 as the year in which Nagios
> will rise to the top of the competition and rightfully claim its spot as
> undisputed King of Monitoring..." which sounded very irritating in the face
> of a stagnant development and all these OpenNMS, Zabbix, HypericHQ, Zenoss
> creeping from their holes. It's not easy for a horse to win the race, when
> there's no Jockey. A lively discussion started. Some thought, Ethan had an
> ace up his sleeve. Insiders disabused them. Finally, in a grim sense of
> humor, the Posting was renamed to "2009 - The Run of the Dead Horse".
> Then, Ethan disappeared from the mailing list at all. Patches piled up, but
> no one was in charge. Instead, the operators of www.nagios-portal.de
> received a mail, where they were asked to not use the name "Nagios" any
> more. WTF????!?!?
> As I learned today, this was the moment, where concerned members of the
> Nagios community formed a group, who no longer wanted to look on helplessly.
> The plan was to clone the dead horse and light a fire under it's ass.
> Last week there was an event in Bolzano, Italy, where Ethan spoke about
> Nagios. With mingled feelings I jumped into the car and crossed the snowy
> alps, expecting to hear the talk about Nagios 4 for the third year in
> advance and an unrealistic hope to hear something new, I was being
> optimistic. Instead I learned that Nagios 3 will be final cut for a long
> time to come, with some minor bugfixes maybe. I learned about longevity,
> meaning that an Open Source project can only be successful if the author
> keeps up stamina all the time.
> I was laughing inside. A sarcastic laugh.
> So why am i writing this? I was not involved in the conspiracy, so the
> german nagios community asked me to write this mail and express my feelings
> from a neutral standpoint.
> I phoned and wrote a lot of mails today. I don't like what happened today.
> Nobody does, even Netways. But on the other side, I don't want to see Nagios
> going down the drain. I don't know how things will look in a couple of
> months.
> If Nagios gets it's act together, excellent. If not, I'll switch to Icinga.
>
> Gerhard Lausser
>
> p.s. Ethan, when we met in Bozen, you greeted me in a very cordially way.
> That makes it not easy for me to write this mail.
>
>
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> It was bound to happen.
> Today a group of fed up members of the Nagios community announced Icinga,
> "an Open Source Monitoring System, based on the well-known software Nagios".
> http://www.icinga.org/
> I am a user of Nagios since the days it was called Netsaint.
> I saw Nagios grow and mature, installed it out of curiosity first, then to
> support small admin teams and finally I did projects at enterprise level.
> The latter was possible, when Nagios left the nerd niche and started to gain
> attention at upper management.
> This was around 2005. The first installations of proprietary monitoring
> software were being superseded by Nagios, articles were written, the first
> book on Nagios came out. The community was excited and eager to see Nagios
> be the number one in system monitoring. 2006 was the year of the first
> Nagios conference in Nuremberg, where we all had the chance to meet Ethan
> Galstad. A clever, canny person, who immediately gained the confidence of
> the community.
> Then, in 2008, things slowed down. Nagios 3.x was released, which was a
> great leap forward, but Ethan did not appear on the devel-mailinglist as
> often as he used to. His presentation about the future of Nagios at the
> annual conference was nearly the same as the year before. The NDO was still
> buggy.
> Neither the announced API nor the new web interface weren't even in an early
> state. After the conference, volunteers set up a git repository and a
> testing environment, willing to help with the considerably overdue Version
> 4. No reaction from the maintainer...
> Instead, a blog entry "2009 - The Run of the Dark Horse" appeared on the
> Nagios website. We read about "...Look to 2009 as the year in which Nagios
> will rise to the top of the competition and rightfully claim its spot as
> undisputed King of Monitoring..." which sounded very irritating in the face
> of a stagnant development and all these OpenNMS, Zabbix, HypericHQ, Zenoss
> creeping from their holes. It's not easy for a horse to win the race, when
> there's no Jockey. A lively discussion started. Some thought, Ethan had an
> ace up his sleeve. Insiders disabused them. Finally, in a grim sense of
> humor, the Posting was renamed to "2009 - The Run of the Dead Horse".
> Then, Ethan disappeared from the mailing list at all. Patches piled up, but
> no one was in charge. Instead, the operators of www.nagios-portal.de
> received a mail, where they were asked to not use the name "Nagios" any
> more. WTF????!?!?
> As I learned today, this was the moment, where concerned members of the
> Nagios community formed a group, who no longer wanted to look on helplessly.
> The plan was to clone the dead horse and light a fire under it's ass.
> Last week there was an event in Bolzano, Italy, where Ethan spoke about
> Nagios. With mingled feelings I jumped into the car and crossed the snowy
> alps, expecting to hear the talk about Nagios 4 for the third year in
> advance and an unrealistic hope to hear something new, I was being
> optimistic. Instead I learned that Nagios 3 will be final cut for a long
> time to come, with some minor bugfixes maybe. I learned about longevity,
> meaning that an Open Source project can only be successful if the author
> keeps up stamina all the time.
> I was laughing inside. A sarcastic laugh.
> So why am i writing this? I was not involved in the conspiracy, so the
> german nagios community asked me to write this mail and express my feelings
> from a neutral standpoint.
> I phoned and wrote a lot of mails today. I don't like what happened today.
> Nobody does, even Netways. But on the other side, I don't want to see Nagios
> going down the drain. I don't know how things will look in a couple of
> months.
> If Nagios gets it's act together, excellent. If not, I'll switch to Icinga.
>
> Gerhard Lausser
>
> p.s. Ethan, when we met in Bozen, you greeted me in a very cordially way.
> That makes it not easy for me to write this mail.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The NEW KODAK
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