Re: [Nagios-devel] New Nagios implementation proposal
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:14 am
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Hi Andreas, Ethan,=20
I'm a member of community team Nagios-fr.org. I read Mailing list and I hav=
e some questions of futur of Nagios. This mail is for Ethan and I want a re=
sponse.=20
The Dev :=20
This changement could do slowly in a "Labs Branch" of dev. The 3.x Branch c=
an correct the massive bug of Nagios.=20
Project Zabbix or Zenoss Evolve and features become interested. Nagios is i=
n the wave of success but Don't stop now. The fall could be so fast.=20
There is 3 step in a Open Source Project : Dev / Community / Business=20
Ethan have succefully Develop Nagios Core during ten years And now he begin=
the Business Branch. It's Ok no problem.=20
The Core Roadmap :=20
If the dev team are afraid to change the code of Nagios Core because it's n=
ot optimaly, How Nagios Core Evolve in futur ?=20
This is my opinion but some people are afraid. Some projects begin to born =
in the cloud (Zenoss is changing very quickly and for example, Centreon bec=
ame interested in Shinken concept (POC of Jean Gab=C3=A8s), Zabbix 1.8 perf=
ormance). Nagios Core is powerfull but this algorithm have 10 years old. Ne=
w technologies, ideologies around supervision and enterprises life, I think=
of Jean Gab=C3=A8s and Mattias Kettner Gabes ... I stay speechless. Their =
ideas are simply enormous. And I think these players can help to mark a new=
era for Nagios Core.=20
I think that men like these on their site for the evolution of the Core on =
new technologies. For me to refuse changes would be a strategic error on yo=
ur part because there is a real movement now in the supervision and Nagios =
could mark a major blow and be quiet for several more years if that choice =
was price.=20
True it is a difficult choice to make, but I think being too rigid on the e=
volution of Core and refusing dev and not communicating with the community,=
there will be heavy division final.=20
If Linus Torvalds did not trust the developers of the community, where woul=
d Linux is today. I think the vision and contribution of many people and re=
ally good for an expansion project.=20
The community :=20
How do you consider today's players of the community (no developpers but ac=
tors) ?=20
I think that you are so mysterious about Nagios Roadmap's. You could serve =
you et communicate with community actors to spread the "good word". The pop=
ularity of Nagios has been achieved thanks to its powerful and flexible cod=
e and its huge community.=20
I know you have experienced betrayal but about Nagios-fr.org, we have an re=
al desire to work with you and to make of Nagios, the best and performant p=
roject.=20
Big Problem, the community Branch and the communication of Ethan is so poor=
and mysterious.=20
Ethan silence's irritates. He don't repond to actors community. What is the=
futur ? What is the Roadmap (no public roadmap) ? What is the r=C3=B4le of=
community actors ?=20
Community.nagios.org :=20
Just an idea, Why don't you interview actors (no developpers because you al=
ready do this) of world nagios community and to make them vital points.=20
This is just my point of view of Nagios wave now. I don't want to angry you=
this my mail. I have an great admiration but Ethan is so mysterious in my =
opinion (but with girls that could be success but with a community )=20
Thank you for taking the time to read this mail, hoping that it can help yo=
u or show you fear in a community.=20
Fronteau Romuald=20
Team Nagios-fr.org=20
[email protected]=20
Fronteau Romuald=20
=C3=89quipe Communaut=C3=A9 Nagios Francophone=20
[email protected]=20
http://www.nagios-fr.org=20
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Hi Andreas, Ethan,=20
I'm a member of community team Nagios-fr.org. I read Mailing list and I hav=
e some questions of futur of Nagios. This mail is for Ethan and I want a re=
sponse.=20
The Dev :=20
This changement could do slowly in a "Labs Branch" of dev. The 3.x Branch c=
an correct the massive bug of Nagios.=20
Project Zabbix or Zenoss Evolve and features become interested. Nagios is i=
n the wave of success but Don't stop now. The fall could be so fast.=20
There is 3 step in a Open Source Project : Dev / Community / Business=20
Ethan have succefully Develop Nagios Core during ten years And now he begin=
the Business Branch. It's Ok no problem.=20
The Core Roadmap :=20
If the dev team are afraid to change the code of Nagios Core because it's n=
ot optimaly, How Nagios Core Evolve in futur ?=20
This is my opinion but some people are afraid. Some projects begin to born =
in the cloud (Zenoss is changing very quickly and for example, Centreon bec=
ame interested in Shinken concept (POC of Jean Gab=C3=A8s), Zabbix 1.8 perf=
ormance). Nagios Core is powerfull but this algorithm have 10 years old. Ne=
w technologies, ideologies around supervision and enterprises life, I think=
of Jean Gab=C3=A8s and Mattias Kettner Gabes ... I stay speechless. Their =
ideas are simply enormous. And I think these players can help to mark a new=
era for Nagios Core.=20
I think that men like these on their site for the evolution of the Core on =
new technologies. For me to refuse changes would be a strategic error on yo=
ur part because there is a real movement now in the supervision and Nagios =
could mark a major blow and be quiet for several more years if that choice =
was price.=20
True it is a difficult choice to make, but I think being too rigid on the e=
volution of Core and refusing dev and not communicating with the community,=
there will be heavy division final.=20
If Linus Torvalds did not trust the developers of the community, where woul=
d Linux is today. I think the vision and contribution of many people and re=
ally good for an expansion project.=20
The community :=20
How do you consider today's players of the community (no developpers but ac=
tors) ?=20
I think that you are so mysterious about Nagios Roadmap's. You could serve =
you et communicate with community actors to spread the "good word". The pop=
ularity of Nagios has been achieved thanks to its powerful and flexible cod=
e and its huge community.=20
I know you have experienced betrayal but about Nagios-fr.org, we have an re=
al desire to work with you and to make of Nagios, the best and performant p=
roject.=20
Big Problem, the community Branch and the communication of Ethan is so poor=
and mysterious.=20
Ethan silence's irritates. He don't repond to actors community. What is the=
futur ? What is the Roadmap (no public roadmap) ? What is the r=C3=B4le of=
community actors ?=20
Community.nagios.org :=20
Just an idea, Why don't you interview actors (no developpers because you al=
ready do this) of world nagios community and to make them vital points.=20
This is just my point of view of Nagios wave now. I don't want to angry you=
this my mail. I have an great admiration but Ethan is so mysterious in my =
opinion (but with girls that could be success but with a community )=20
Thank you for taking the time to read this mail, hoping that it can help yo=
u or show you fear in a community.=20
Fronteau Romuald=20
Team Nagios-fr.org=20
[email protected]=20
Fronteau Romuald=20
=C3=89quipe Communaut=C3=A9 Nagios Francophone=20
[email protected]=20
http://www.nagios-fr.org=20
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