XI Contact Group alerting question - How?

[dwhitfield]

@chris_rr, did you still have questions about passive/active checks?

[chris_rr]

*Personally, I think it's time for Nagios Core 5 (I know, easy to ask for, hard to contribute) that makes everything an object and there's no difference between service and host or contact or dependency and you can just link things together however you want. This type of infrastructure would allow you to do what you want, but it's not there yet.

For the record I am referring to XI in this scenario still. I can't see it being overly difficult to implement in the GUI - check host, have option for "include all services for host", then edit the alerting tab and select a contact group.
However I can't "edit" any of the passive checks that are received by XI, only the ones it's doing itself. You're correct that I can still alert on them, but I have no granularity except to choose individual users to get all checks, or something.

--C

[dwhitfield]

so you can't edit passive services to manage alert settings or contact groups. Is that correct?

Maybe I still don't understand what you are asking, but you can edit passive checks: https://assets.nagios.com/downloads/nag ... ios-XI.pdf

I couldn't find any documentation on it we haven't already sent, so I attached a screenshot of where you can modify contact groups.

Please let us know if you have any additional questions.

[eloyd]

(PS - Nagios Core is the underlying monitoring engine within Nagios XI, which is why I mentioned it).

And passive checks and active checks are configured exactly the same way within Nagios XI, it's just a matter of whether or not Nagios is actually scheduling and executing the checks (active) or not (passive). While there is no "apply to all services on this host" type notification setting (you should submit a feature request for that), whatever notifications you can do with Active Check A, you can do with Passive Check B.

[dwhitfield]

That's kinda already on the roadmap:

Reworking/expanding object relationships and functionality, such as dependencies, groups, escalations, and notifications

https://www.nagios.com/roadmaps/

Unfortunately, I don't have an ETA on that. Core 3.0 was around for 6.5 years before 4.0. If that holds, that means we are looking at March 2020. If I had to *guess*, Core 5 will be out sooner than that, but I am not a member of the development team. How long after Core 5 that it gets integrated in XI will depend on many factors on which I cannot more than wildly speculate, so I won't.

I do think likely there will be infrastructure changes to make what you want more efficient, so I'd suggest making specific requests at https://github.com/NagiosEnterprises/nagioscore/issues

[chris_rr]

(PS - Nagios Core is the underlying monitoring engine within Nagios XI, which is why I mentioned it).

And passive checks and active checks are configured exactly the same way within Nagios XI, it's just a matter of whether or not Nagios is actually scheduling and executing the checks (active) or not (passive). While there is no "apply to all services on this host" type notification setting (you should submit a feature request for that), whatever notifications you can do with Active Check A, you can do with Passive Check B.

yeah I think it was pilot error that I encountered there.

--C

[dwhitfield]

@chris_rr, did you have any other questions on how things work now? If not, are we ready to lock this up?

Also, I just want to be 100% clear that 6.5 years isn't any sort of goal of ours. There's literally no time line for 5.0 that I know about.

[chris_rr]

@chris_rr, did you have any other questions on how things work now? If not, are we ready to lock this up?

Also, I just want to be 100% clear that 6.5 years isn't any sort of goal of ours. There's literally no time line for 5.0 that I know about.

No worries, Core wasn't the topic of the post anyway.

I was able to find part of what I wanted to do via the bulk modification tool, but again, it didn't allow me to select a set of services from a particular host and associate them with a particular contact group. I know that inability derives from the way the DB is done in XI - I couldn't see a "feature request" forum tho to submit that one.

In that regard, I think yes, question answered.

Thanks!
--C

[eloyd]

Nagios Core is the underlying monitoring engine within Nagios XI. In essence, Nagios XI is an uber-GUI (and lots of other things) around Nagios XI. The fundamental thing that you want to be able to do is easier to do at the Core level than the GUI level, so it still makes sense to ask for a feature at the Nagios Core site referenced earlier (https://github.com/NagiosEnterprises/nagioscore/issues).

[dwhitfield]

No worries, Core wasn't the topic of the post anyway.

The current version of XI (5.3.x) uses Core 4.1.1. The Core that XI uses gets updated from time-to-time. The current version of Core is 4.2.4. It's not exactly like the Fedora/RHEL relationship but in as much as Fedora features arrive before RHEL features do, you can think of it like that.

There's no need to belabor the point though. I'll go ahead and lock it up. Please feel free to open a new thread if you have problems with the bulk modification tool.