Re: [Nagios-devel] The nagios community wants to keep its open soul

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On Feb 25, 2010, at 8:08 AM, nap wrote:

> Maybe we can add a bug ticket so ideas.nagios.org ask real names? Or =
maybe we can really think people ask a road map for this project and =
answers?

No, my only point is that maybe you shouldn't tout that as definitive =
proof of widespread community agreement with you. It's clearly a bogus =
poll at this point.

You have a larger agenda as well that strongly affects your perception =
of nagios development. I don't fault you for wanting to know these =
things but the approach by you and others of trying to foment dissent in =
the community is off the mark.

> You can also read some of the post around the web like =
http://linuxfr.org/~naparuba/29408.html (sorry this one is in french) =
that speak about it and see what real people (with not a random name if =
you prefer) thinks about the need of answer about where the project is =
going.

You seem to presume that I am one side or the other of this debate; I am =
not. I too recognize some of the problems being discussed but I do not =
yet have enough information to guess at the severity of the them -
- Ethan's absence from the lists - Yes, he's been rarely seen. =
Is he investing his limited time in Nagios XI now? Is that a short-term =
or long-term change? Are there other things going on in his life that =
preclude him from doing development on Nagios right now? Is that a =
short-term or long-term thing?
- What is the relationship of Nagios XI to the OSS version? Will =
the OSS version become the testing ground for new things or the 'as I =
have time' version?
- Ongoing development of the OSS version. There's recently been =
talk of starting a new branch. This is good but what's planned =
(highlights) and will that branch be a focus of development or will =
Nagios XI?
- Re: Nagios-fr.org. I don't remember seeing any demand in the =
emails that were posted for them to hand over the domain to Ethan. Those =
emails have since been removed from the post referenced in the email =
from Michael Friedrich so I can't review them. If that particular =
conversation is going to continue, someone please make them available =
again. I do recognize that Ethan owns the name and he must take =
reasonable measures to avoid dilution or misuse of the name. Whether the =
use by nagios-fr.org satisfies those reasons may be debatable by us but =
in the end, it's Ethan's decision and we will either like it or not.

As far as the future of Nagios, it is Ethan's project, not ours; it =
always has been and we are along for the ride. We can have hopes and =
dreams about what it can become and Ethan may buy into them, or he may =
not. We can propose contributions and he may accept them, or he may not. =
Regardless, we will all make our own decisions about whether this is =
compatible with our own goals. Some will stay, some will move on. C'est =
la vie.

> Ps: if every 4 votes is a downvote, it mean that even more than 400 =
people vote for it, isn't it?

That was the trend at the moment I was looking at it. That doesn't mean =
that it always was or always will be...

--
Marc






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